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	<title>Comments on: Xbox 360 Elite vs. 60 gig PS3: Xbox 360 arguably the best value</title>
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		<title>By: Danny Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A PS3 can be picked up a hell of a lot cheaper than the totalled costs of the Xbox 360

Now to be honest, i find this stupid, you're comparing a console that's been out ages, without giving the PS3 the chance to get going

Now that times past the PS3 has a hell of a lot more to come than the Xbox 360, even MS have said it themselves, they're isn't much more to come where Sony are constantly sending out updates

Plus, Xbox is actuely unable to play certain games like MGS4 as they have small disks
Estimates
You'll actuelly find that anybody who says the PS3 is better is someone who is or has been a owner of a Xbox 360 but turned to the PS3, or just has had a PS3
This is because they know what a true gaming experience this now is
One of my mates just recently turned to the PS3 from the 360 and we was discussed why the PS3 was better, one reason is the Xbox 360 starts up like a car engine, no good for the true gamers that are on the PS3 who like to be on it all night, and that's the reason i'm posting at 1.30 am.

Xbox gamers say and i've heard this said, "Well we have COD4 and that owns all" just shows what noobs Xbox gamers are
Halo and GOW are the only games the PS3 doesn't have and Microsoft have actuelly said that they are disapointed with them 2 games as they expected a lot more

I have played a 360 i know the diffrent
Now to all the noob gamers out there, play a PS3 before commenting on it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A PS3 can be picked up a hell of a lot cheaper than the totalled costs of the Xbox 360</p>
<p>Now to be honest, i find this stupid, you&#8217;re comparing a console that&#8217;s been out ages, without giving the PS3 the chance to get going</p>
<p>Now that times past the PS3 has a hell of a lot more to come than the Xbox 360, even MS have said it themselves, they&#8217;re isn&#8217;t much more to come where Sony are constantly sending out updates</p>
<p>Plus, Xbox is actuely unable to play certain games like MGS4 as they have small disks<br />
Estimates<br />
You&#8217;ll actuelly find that anybody who says the PS3 is better is someone who is or has been a owner of a Xbox 360 but turned to the PS3, or just has had a PS3<br />
This is because they know what a true gaming experience this now is<br />
One of my mates just recently turned to the PS3 from the 360 and we was discussed why the PS3 was better, one reason is the Xbox 360 starts up like a car engine, no good for the true gamers that are on the PS3 who like to be on it all night, and that&#8217;s the reason i&#8217;m posting at 1.30 am.</p>
<p>Xbox gamers say and i&#8217;ve heard this said, &#8220;Well we have COD4 and that owns all&#8221; just shows what noobs Xbox gamers are<br />
Halo and GOW are the only games the PS3 doesn&#8217;t have and Microsoft have actuelly said that they are disapointed with them 2 games as they expected a lot more</p>
<p>I have played a 360 i know the diffrent<br />
Now to all the noob gamers out there, play a PS3 before commenting on it</p>
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		<title>By: GAMER KING</title>
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		<dc:creator>GAMER KING</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps3 vs xbox 360
the features ps3 has more usb ports than xbox and bluray wivh won the format war with it u get built in wi-fi which u can connect to psn and web for free and wireless and the xbox doesint have nwt lyk that so

ps3 80gb-1 xbox 360 elite-0

online now   while the xbox is 50 a yr the ps3 is free to go on ps home which is unbelievable and the impressive thing to go on the interenet for all for free but the bad thing is that the xbox has more stuff to do lyk market place for movies and everyhting and xbox acarde for demos and games thousands while ps3 has store but it hasint got as much and u get acheivments on xbox that works on every game whilt the ps3 trophies only work on sum  and the xbl has 12million users while the ps3 doesint have that many and its easier to tlk to freinds and jump in to games wivout quiting and starting all over again on the ps soo

ps3 80gb-1 xbox elite-1

games the xbox 360 has loads of games because release a yr early but the ps3 has loads cumin but if u look the xbox 360 has flodded the market with more games and the xbox gets acces to extra content lyk on gta iv fallout 3 and everthing while ps3 doesint so

ps3 80gb-1 xbox elite-2

hardrive well i fink we know who wins theire xbox elite 120gb hdd and ps3s 80gb  so

ps3 80gb 1 xbox elite- 3 

graphics well the e3 awards 2008 sooed that the ps3 had good graphic and got the graphics award on killzone 2 bu the xbox 360 got the best graphics technology so 

ps3 80gb-2 xbox elite-4

exclusives well the ps3 had loads oof exclusives until they started to releas them on xbox 360 and now the 360 has loads of xbox exclusives so the score is

price the ps3 still has cut the price down alot so now the ps3 80gb is 399 while the xbox elite is 349 so am gonna give them both that coz theyve both cut the price and am gonna give ps3 an extra point for feature sbecause it wlks over the xbox with the feature

PS3 80GB-4 XBOX ELITE-5   
                          
                              SO THE WINNER IS XBOX ELITE AND AM NOT AN XBOX FAN COZ AV GOT BOTH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps3 vs xbox 360<br />
the features ps3 has more usb ports than xbox and bluray wivh won the format war with it u get built in wi-fi which u can connect to psn and web for free and wireless and the xbox doesint have nwt lyk that so</p>
<p>ps3 80gb-1 xbox 360 elite-0</p>
<p>online now   while the xbox is 50 a yr the ps3 is free to go on ps home which is unbelievable and the impressive thing to go on the interenet for all for free but the bad thing is that the xbox has more stuff to do lyk market place for movies and everyhting and xbox acarde for demos and games thousands while ps3 has store but it hasint got as much and u get acheivments on xbox that works on every game whilt the ps3 trophies only work on sum  and the xbl has 12million users while the ps3 doesint have that many and its easier to tlk to freinds and jump in to games wivout quiting and starting all over again on the ps soo</p>
<p>ps3 80gb-1 xbox elite-1</p>
<p>games the xbox 360 has loads of games because release a yr early but the ps3 has loads cumin but if u look the xbox 360 has flodded the market with more games and the xbox gets acces to extra content lyk on gta iv fallout 3 and everthing while ps3 doesint so</p>
<p>ps3 80gb-1 xbox elite-2</p>
<p>hardrive well i fink we know who wins theire xbox elite 120gb hdd and ps3s 80gb  so</p>
<p>ps3 80gb 1 xbox elite- 3 </p>
<p>graphics well the e3 awards 2008 sooed that the ps3 had good graphic and got the graphics award on killzone 2 bu the xbox 360 got the best graphics technology so </p>
<p>ps3 80gb-2 xbox elite-4</p>
<p>exclusives well the ps3 had loads oof exclusives until they started to releas them on xbox 360 and now the 360 has loads of xbox exclusives so the score is</p>
<p>price the ps3 still has cut the price down alot so now the ps3 80gb is 399 while the xbox elite is 349 so am gonna give them both that coz theyve both cut the price and am gonna give ps3 an extra point for feature sbecause it wlks over the xbox with the feature</p>
<p>PS3 80GB-4 XBOX ELITE-5   </p>
<p>                              SO THE WINNER IS XBOX ELITE AND AM NOT AN XBOX FAN COZ AV GOT BOTH</p>
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		<title>By: cod gammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>cod gammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I love video games the fact that ps3 doesnt have as many games as 360 does not bother me at all there still too many ps3 games for me to get my hands on. Developers cant even create games that which tap into ps3 potential having 7 cells where as they only use 3 cells (which is btw as much as 360 has), once this happens i gaurentee ps3 games will sore!

btw this is about cost not about the games. lets not lose sight on the topic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I love video games the fact that ps3 doesnt have as many games as 360 does not bother me at all there still too many ps3 games for me to get my hands on. Developers cant even create games that which tap into ps3 potential having 7 cells where as they only use 3 cells (which is btw as much as 360 has), once this happens i gaurentee ps3 games will sore!</p>
<p>btw this is about cost not about the games. lets not lose sight on the topic</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Shooter. The whole entire point of a gaming console is for the games. Don't call it a gaming console if it is mainly focused on Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. You should just call it a Home Entertainment System. I like how the PS3 throws everything in a big package. In the future I will own a HD-TV. I don't right now, and I still own a a PS3 and a Xbox 360.

I will give the winner for each console category

Games- Halo 3, Gears of War, BioShock, Mass Effect, Deadrising and Crackdown

Winner: Xbox 360

Graphics- The cross-platform games are pretty much the same. The exclusive games are graphically, way better than the Xbox 360 exclusives.

Winner: PS3

Online- Xbox Live can't be beat. PS3 is creating something called HOME where you can make your own character and earn trophies. Make a house and everything else you do in an animated life. It still won't be as good as Xbox Live.

Winner: Xbox 360

Multimedia- The PS3 wins for watching movies because you can watch DVD's and Blu-ray movies. The Xbox 360 only lets you watch DVD movies that are getting outdated. The downloadable content is more available on Xbox Live. You can download HD movies, TV shows, watch live TV in HD, look at pictures and listen to music. The PS3 can only download Blu-ray movie previews and movie trailers for upcoming movies in theatres. 

Winner: Xbox 360</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Shooter. The whole entire point of a gaming console is for the games. Don&#8217;t call it a gaming console if it is mainly focused on Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. You should just call it a Home Entertainment System. I like how the PS3 throws everything in a big package. In the future I will own a HD-TV. I don&#8217;t right now, and I still own a a PS3 and a Xbox 360.</p>
<p>I will give the winner for each console category</p>
<p>Games- Halo 3, Gears of War, BioShock, Mass Effect, Deadrising and Crackdown</p>
<p>Winner: Xbox 360</p>
<p>Graphics- The cross-platform games are pretty much the same. The exclusive games are graphically, way better than the Xbox 360 exclusives.</p>
<p>Winner: PS3</p>
<p>Online- Xbox Live can&#8217;t be beat. PS3 is creating something called HOME where you can make your own character and earn trophies. Make a house and everything else you do in an animated life. It still won&#8217;t be as good as Xbox Live.</p>
<p>Winner: Xbox 360</p>
<p>Multimedia- The PS3 wins for watching movies because you can watch DVD&#8217;s and Blu-ray movies. The Xbox 360 only lets you watch DVD movies that are getting outdated. The downloadable content is more available on Xbox Live. You can download HD movies, TV shows, watch live TV in HD, look at pictures and listen to music. The PS3 can only download Blu-ray movie previews and movie trailers for upcoming movies in theatres. </p>
<p>Winner: Xbox 360</p>
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		<title>By: shooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well it all depends on what u want or into. I personally would choose a 360 because im want a gaming system with lots of games NOW... not in a year time. Also with good online gaming... (sucky) ps3 online. And if ur a true gamer u wouldnt mind paying to play the awesome xbox live. Also MS let u get what u want cuz if u bought a ps3 and didnt want a blue ray disk player or will never use it, u just wasted ur money on it...and remember the main thing is that they are gaming consoles...later&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well it all depends on what u want or into. I personally would choose a 360 because im want a gaming system with lots of games NOW&#8230; not in a year time. Also with good online gaming&#8230; (sucky) ps3 online. And if ur a true gamer u wouldnt mind paying to play the awesome xbox live. Also MS let u get what u want cuz if u bought a ps3 and didnt want a blue ray disk player or will never use it, u just wasted ur money on it&#8230;and remember the main thing is that they are gaming consoles&#8230;later&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Bahumut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bahumut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H Lime...sorry to say but your going in circles above the problem and not really addressing what your topic was originally about. Let me remind you what you wrote:

"If you compile all the costs of the 360 Elite vs. the 60 gig PS3, souping up each to meet the experience offered by the other, the 360 Elite is cheaper, even including the $179 cost of the HD-DVD player on the 360 side."

more specifically in order for the xbox to meet the experience of the ps3, and I actually mean "meet" because the xbox off the shelf is far inferior when your considering "souping up." Your argument was that at the max the xbox was still cheaper, I demonstrated that it wasn't, not by a long shot. The difference was the ps3 started out with a lot more of the non-basics like the blu-ray player, wifi, and online services at no additional cost to the gamer. On the other hand xbox had the non-basics, they were just add-ons that required additional finances. In the end xbox showed that it cost more once you get each to its highest level. (Highest level, as in, it includes everything...not just basics, or not just what you want, but everything.)

Now, if you would like to discuss whether or not you need those non-basics, then you need to create a new blog because that would be off topic. And in the end, what you need, and what I need are completely different, as stated, I cannot go without online play and a wireless card, they were cost that I could not budge on. In your case, you might not need either one, especially if your not a Halo fan, in fact, you might not even need a big hard drive, maybe the Wii is better for you? WHO KNOWS????? Everything about what you need, which was better economic decision for you, is completely pointless information to me.

Once again, just in case you didn't get it from the above two paragraphs:

Your blog was comparing the two systems at max, where there is definite cost for each console that is not arguable. Your comparison found that the xbox was cheaper, you were missing some of the add-ons associated with the xbox, so I revised your estimates, which lead to the favor of the ps3. Its really not something that can be argued in terms of maxes.

I would note that in the end, the max is almost never necessary, which kind of makes this blog a mute point unless you are a person like me. I have both consoles, I have all of the add-ons for both, I have the 52" hdtv, I have the 5.1 surround sound, in my case, the differences matter. For the casual gamer, who knows which is right...I think it depends more on your favored gamer genre than anything. If your a Halo fan get an xbox, if you like Warhawk the ps3 is the only way to go, if your Mario addict...well your certainly not going to get your next fix with either of the consoles, the Wii is for you.

Hope this settles the mixed up arguments that are here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H Lime&#8230;sorry to say but your going in circles above the problem and not really addressing what your topic was originally about. Let me remind you what you wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you compile all the costs of the 360 Elite vs. the 60 gig PS3, souping up each to meet the experience offered by the other, the 360 Elite is cheaper, even including the $179 cost of the HD-DVD player on the 360 side.&#8221;</p>
<p>more specifically in order for the xbox to meet the experience of the ps3, and I actually mean &#8220;meet&#8221; because the xbox off the shelf is far inferior when your considering &#8220;souping up.&#8221; Your argument was that at the max the xbox was still cheaper, I demonstrated that it wasn&#8217;t, not by a long shot. The difference was the ps3 started out with a lot more of the non-basics like the blu-ray player, wifi, and online services at no additional cost to the gamer. On the other hand xbox had the non-basics, they were just add-ons that required additional finances. In the end xbox showed that it cost more once you get each to its highest level. (Highest level, as in, it includes everything&#8230;not just basics, or not just what you want, but everything.)</p>
<p>Now, if you would like to discuss whether or not you need those non-basics, then you need to create a new blog because that would be off topic. And in the end, what you need, and what I need are completely different, as stated, I cannot go without online play and a wireless card, they were cost that I could not budge on. In your case, you might not need either one, especially if your not a Halo fan, in fact, you might not even need a big hard drive, maybe the Wii is better for you? WHO KNOWS????? Everything about what you need, which was better economic decision for you, is completely pointless information to me.</p>
<p>Once again, just in case you didn&#8217;t get it from the above two paragraphs:</p>
<p>Your blog was comparing the two systems at max, where there is definite cost for each console that is not arguable. Your comparison found that the xbox was cheaper, you were missing some of the add-ons associated with the xbox, so I revised your estimates, which lead to the favor of the ps3. Its really not something that can be argued in terms of maxes.</p>
<p>I would note that in the end, the max is almost never necessary, which kind of makes this blog a mute point unless you are a person like me. I have both consoles, I have all of the add-ons for both, I have the 52&#8243; hdtv, I have the 5.1 surround sound, in my case, the differences matter. For the casual gamer, who knows which is right&#8230;I think it depends more on your favored gamer genre than anything. If your a Halo fan get an xbox, if you like Warhawk the ps3 is the only way to go, if your Mario addict&#8230;well your certainly not going to get your next fix with either of the consoles, the Wii is for you.</p>
<p>Hope this settles the mixed up arguments that are here.</p>
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		<title>By: sdfJR</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdfJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PS3 also had 1080p capability, internet browser, and their is no charge for online gaming.  360 charges you for the xbox live feature after a while.  Playstation has never charged for this.  I know it has been talked about since PS2 came out, but they still have never charged for online gaming.  I have to tell you.  The PS3 on my new 1080p Sharp Aquos television blows 360 out of the water in looks.  The design is so sleek.  I have one HDMI cable and that's it.  For  my money it was PS3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PS3 also had 1080p capability, internet browser, and their is no charge for online gaming.  360 charges you for the xbox live feature after a while.  Playstation has never charged for this.  I know it has been talked about since PS2 came out, but they still have never charged for online gaming.  I have to tell you.  The PS3 on my new 1080p Sharp Aquos television blows 360 out of the water in looks.  The design is so sleek.  I have one HDMI cable and that&#8217;s it.  For  my money it was PS3.</p>
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		<title>By: Shocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the UK and I have just calculated how much an Xbox 360 Elite costs. Consol: $425, HD-DVD Drive: $160, Wireless Adapter: $90. All this comes to a quite cheap $675 vs PS3's $769 or (£345 vs £390). In my opinion the 360 is better value for money and is more user friendley to the much larger population of standard definition user like myself. So minus the HD-DVD player   that comes to $515 vs $769 (£270 vs £390). I hope this settles things for people without HDTVs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the UK and I have just calculated how much an Xbox 360 Elite costs. Consol: $425, HD-DVD Drive: $160, Wireless Adapter: $90. All this comes to a quite cheap $675 vs PS3&#8217;s $769 or (£345 vs £390). In my opinion the 360 is better value for money and is more user friendley to the much larger population of standard definition user like myself. So minus the HD-DVD player   that comes to $515 vs $769 (£270 vs £390). I hope this settles things for people without HDTVs.</p>
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		<title>By: Artemis Frog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artemis Frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got my PS3... It's sweet! The graphics are awesome... I have loads of PS2 games to tide me over as well until the real bad boy games for the PS3 mature and is released.

The console looks sweet and is wireless... Oh yeah, and the controls are still a good size (xbox... smirk... lol... you call that a control?! It's a frickin brick!)

LOVE the motion sensor six axis controllers! Would seriously miss them if I was forced to play an xbox 360... Sheesh... Microsoft have to get with the times man...

Sure... it was expensive... but seriously folks... I could be playing with conkers if the money meant that much to me...

Oh yeah... and did I mention... IT'S A PS3! IT ROCKS! For the serious gamer who wants THE FASTEST system out there, but is not willing to compromise on the aesthetic appeal... it's gotta be PlayStation.

Xbox might be playing the "quantity" game... but I say... BRIIIIING IT OOOOOOOOON SOOOONY! We gotta kick some MS butt! At the end of the day... Quality is what counts.

Nuff said...

Artemis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my PS3&#8230; It&#8217;s sweet! The graphics are awesome&#8230; I have loads of PS2 games to tide me over as well until the real bad boy games for the PS3 mature and is released.</p>
<p>The console looks sweet and is wireless&#8230; Oh yeah, and the controls are still a good size (xbox&#8230; smirk&#8230; lol&#8230; you call that a control?! It&#8217;s a frickin brick!)</p>
<p>LOVE the motion sensor six axis controllers! Would seriously miss them if I was forced to play an xbox 360&#8230; Sheesh&#8230; Microsoft have to get with the times man&#8230;</p>
<p>Sure&#8230; it was expensive&#8230; but seriously folks&#8230; I could be playing with conkers if the money meant that much to me&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230; and did I mention&#8230; IT&#8217;S A PS3! IT ROCKS! For the serious gamer who wants THE FASTEST system out there, but is not willing to compromise on the aesthetic appeal&#8230; it&#8217;s gotta be PlayStation.</p>
<p>Xbox might be playing the &#8220;quantity&#8221; game&#8230; but I say&#8230; BRIIIIING IT OOOOOOOOON SOOOONY! We gotta kick some MS butt! At the end of the day&#8230; Quality is what counts.</p>
<p>Nuff said&#8230;</p>
<p>Artemis</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Snake</title>
		<link>http://hlime.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/xbox-360-elite-vs-ps3-xbox-360-still-the-better-value/#comment-1176</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your argument was that an Xbox 360 Elite equipped up to be on par with a PS3 was still cheaper than a PS3.  Are you retracting that now?

Why are you mentioning standalone HD or Blu-Ray player stats?  There are people who bought a Blu-ray player in the form of a PS3.  You sound like the guys in the HD-DVD camp who don't want PS3's counted towards the Blu-Ray stats.  I know that if I was a consumer, and you showed me a standalone blu-ray player at $1000 or a PS3 which plays Blu-ray at $659 I would be choosing the PS3.   Where exactly are the polls that state that people don't want an HD format?  Have you thought that the people who don't want Blu-Ray or HD-DVD are waiting for a winner in that format war.   Playing it safe as opposed to being stuck with the 21st Century's version of a BetaMax.   They want Hi-Def, they just don't want the wrong Hi-Def.

I believe that there will be a market for downloading HD movies, but I think that both the Xbox and PS3 have a major hurdle to overcome.  Storage, and more importantly permanent storage.    A 1080P movie will be several Gigs.  How many movies will the Xbox or the PS3 hold?  Several, A few, 10, 20?  I already have a Blu-Ray library bigger than that.  If my HDD is filled, will I have to delete a movie that I bought, to buy another one?  Unless of course you could pay to stream the movie, in which case you get to pay every time you want to watch that movie again.

Also, Blu-ray might be a small player when compared to conventional DVD sales and rentals.   But they are forward thinking enough to know that consumers will switch to a High Definition format.  More than that, they are trying to mold the future of the HD format war.  And they are being successful according to HD sales and rental stats.

Does Sony charge for online content?  Of course it does.  And I have a choice of whether to buy online content or not.  My beef was that every other console has wireless - even the lowly Nintendo DS!  And I have come to depend on consoles having wireless.  Not everyone has internet in their living room.  I have to run a network cable from my office to the living room to use the Xbox online.  Microsoft feels that $130 is an acceptable price for a wireless network adapter for the Xbox.    Both Sony and Microsoft will nickel and dime you for online or software content, but Sony does not do it on their hardware.  Microsoft does - Which is my major complaint.

I don't care if Microsoft drops the price by $100 on their line of Xbox's.  When you upgrade the Xbox to something close to the PS3 specs, so you can compare apples to apples, the Xbox costs more than a PS3.  There is no logic, no stats, no numbers that support a case for Xbox being cheaper in anyway.

Slippery Snake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your argument was that an Xbox 360 Elite equipped up to be on par with a PS3 was still cheaper than a PS3.  Are you retracting that now?</p>
<p>Why are you mentioning standalone HD or Blu-Ray player stats?  There are people who bought a Blu-ray player in the form of a PS3.  You sound like the guys in the HD-DVD camp who don&#8217;t want PS3&#8217;s counted towards the Blu-Ray stats.  I know that if I was a consumer, and you showed me a standalone blu-ray player at $1000 or a PS3 which plays Blu-ray at $659 I would be choosing the PS3.   Where exactly are the polls that state that people don&#8217;t want an HD format?  Have you thought that the people who don&#8217;t want Blu-Ray or HD-DVD are waiting for a winner in that format war.   Playing it safe as opposed to being stuck with the 21st Century&#8217;s version of a BetaMax.   They want Hi-Def, they just don&#8217;t want the wrong Hi-Def.</p>
<p>I believe that there will be a market for downloading HD movies, but I think that both the Xbox and PS3 have a major hurdle to overcome.  Storage, and more importantly permanent storage.    A 1080P movie will be several Gigs.  How many movies will the Xbox or the PS3 hold?  Several, A few, 10, 20?  I already have a Blu-Ray library bigger than that.  If my HDD is filled, will I have to delete a movie that I bought, to buy another one?  Unless of course you could pay to stream the movie, in which case you get to pay every time you want to watch that movie again.</p>
<p>Also, Blu-ray might be a small player when compared to conventional DVD sales and rentals.   But they are forward thinking enough to know that consumers will switch to a High Definition format.  More than that, they are trying to mold the future of the HD format war.  And they are being successful according to HD sales and rental stats.</p>
<p>Does Sony charge for online content?  Of course it does.  And I have a choice of whether to buy online content or not.  My beef was that every other console has wireless - even the lowly Nintendo DS!  And I have come to depend on consoles having wireless.  Not everyone has internet in their living room.  I have to run a network cable from my office to the living room to use the Xbox online.  Microsoft feels that $130 is an acceptable price for a wireless network adapter for the Xbox.    Both Sony and Microsoft will nickel and dime you for online or software content, but Sony does not do it on their hardware.  Microsoft does - Which is my major complaint.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if Microsoft drops the price by $100 on their line of Xbox&#8217;s.  When you upgrade the Xbox to something close to the PS3 specs, so you can compare apples to apples, the Xbox costs more than a PS3.  There is no logic, no stats, no numbers that support a case for Xbox being cheaper in anyway.</p>
<p>Slippery Snake</p>
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